Sunday, October 7, 2012

Once Upon a Time Season 2: Less Fairy Tales?

Looks like there will be less and less fairy tale coverage of OUAT. And, yes, reading between the lines is that the focus is really more about Disney characters coming to visit than anything else. Mulan, Captain Hook, all Disney animation. I don't think we will be seeing Jane Eyre. We're more likely to see


or Herbie the Love Bug--or wait! Isn't that Emma's car already?

From 'Once Upon a Time' producers pledge intense season 2 by James Hibberd at EW:

Here’s what I find interesting about the characters you’re adding this season. Mulan is a Chinese historical figure. Captain Hook is an early 20th century literary creation and Lancelot is a fifth-century possible historical figure. Those aren’t fairy-tale characters.

KITSIS: Go back and look at the pilot when you see Henry’s book and the book flips [through the pages of illustrations from different stories]. Also the episode with the Mad Hatter when you see all the doors [to other worlds]. If you Tivo-pause those doors there are some that look different than what you might think.

HOROWITZ: Fairy tales are ground zero. They’re the first stories we hear … Will Chewbacca show up in Storybrooke? Probably not, because that’s a Lucasfilm property.

KITSIS: But he’s welcome to!

You play a lot with Disney characters. What’s something you’re not allowed to do?

KITSIS: Cinderella is not going to be doing an 8-ball in a Boogie Nights scene.

But you wouldn’t write that anyway.

HOROWITZ: You get the sense of where the line is and you try to push as far over that as you can without going too far. We want to do cool dark stories, but we don’t want to sully the characters. We had Snow “under a curse” and not behaving as herself, capture and torture a guard with an axe and threaten him. It was very real to what our Snow was doing at the time, but it’s not something traditionally Disney would want to do with that character.

KITSIS: That was our Quentin Tarantino moment.

HOROWITZ: And we had things like the Red Riding Hood episode where she kills her boyfriend and eats him. We’re getting families to watch this, but we were able to get the dark things we wanted to do.

KITSIS: For us it’s about character. Everybody has darkness in them.


  1. Sigh. So, it's unlikely we'll be seeing the more obscure fairy tale characters then. 210 stories in Grimm alone and we only ever see a handful adapted.

  2. I like how they are mixing other tales with the typical fairy-tale characters.

  3. FEWER fairy tales.

  4. This report bothered me so much that I had to go away and think about it for days, but it finally dawned on me that that's pretty much how Fables operates as well. And I love Fables. So maybe I should give them more of a chance...

    On a completely unrelated note, Lancelot didn't show up in the Arthurian mythos until pretty late, as I understand it. "Possible historical figure" not so much...

    Also, the Neverland/ Wonderland/ Oz thing-- a question for you, Heidi. Do you think we are seeing the birth/ transformation of those stories into fairy tales, much as TLM, etc were once literary creations? Or do you think they are too far removed in style, content, etc to ever count as "true" fairy tales? It's something I've been wondering lately, and I was hoping you might have some thoughts...


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